02-25-2019, 02:35 AM
[div style="width: 450px; margin: auto; text-align: justify"]ok so a while back I did a survey and I got 6 replies. I never fully followed up on it, though I always planned to. There was just a lot I needed to sort through in my head, and truth be told there were aspects of the survey that weren't well thought out. But! I don't want anyone to think I forgot about this or didn't care, so here's the results from the survey!
[spoiler=results]Q1. Do you roleplay in the Badlands? And if you're comfortable, how deep is your history, if you have one?
Like I said, six people filled this out. At the time, four had been there for a while and two were recent joiners.
Q2. If you're already in the Badlands, could changes (especially to theme) you dislike potentially make you want to leave, or if you liked them would they make you more excited to roleplay there? If you're not in the Badlands, would changes you dislike keep you away, or could changes you do like draw you in?
This question was kind of a mess but the general response was that making changes would have little effect on people, with some reservations here and there.
Q3. What has been your experience (specifically within the last two months) with the OOC community?
—One person thought the whole group was cliquey.
—Five people thought a few individuals were cliquey.
—One person thought that there were only a few people that weren't cliquey.
—Two people thought it was a welcoming environment.
—One person didn't think it seemed cliquey because of different levels of involvement overall.
To me that highlighted that there's an issue, perhaps not one that's as bad as it could be but nearly everyone has felt like there's some problems. I'll be talking about this more a bit later. (For those confused why the numbers seem a little weird, people were allowed to select multiple things and write in)
Q4. What do you think of the action Bryne has been taking to try and address the cliques?
—Two people said it was too soon to tell.
—One person said I was doing well.
—One person said I would have to do more.
—One person said it was a start.
—The last person abstained.
I know that I've been doing little more than calling things out in meetings, but I do have more things I'll be implementing to try and encourage more plots and engagement, and I'll also be taking suggestions.
Q5. Do you think that the Discord has overall been a positive place and beneficial to the group?
—Five people said yes.
—One person said no.
Q6. Is there anything that you think could improve it, or should it just be closed (even temporarily)?
—One person thought it was a little confusing to have some channels be the same as threads on the site (chatting, etc).
—One person thought that the niche category should be removed, or at least unused channels should be deleted after a period of inactivity.
—One person thought it should be permanently closed.
—One person commented on how hard it can be to keep up at times.
—The other two didn't comment.
Ok for the duplicate threads/channels, those are just the basic things you'll get everywhere, and personally I don't think it makes sense to get rid of them. I don't want to make it harder for people to chat and plot on BB, nor strip anyone without discord of the ability to engage with the community in that way. Still, most of us use the discord and most of the chatting and plotting are done there, so it doesn't make sense to remove those channels either. As far as the niche category goes, I'm not all that opposed to moving the "au stuff" to the secondary category and removing the specific au channels. When it comes to closing down the discord, I? Okay. I'm sad and sorry that it's been a negative place for someone, but I think that the overwhelming consensus would be to keep the discord, as it's been a good place for most. Lastly, that's just the nature of discords and hell, I've even been in chat threads that moved that fast, maybe even faster. That was more of a comment on the nature of it (with a note that they're sure they can ask what they missed, which they absolutely can!), so there's not much else for me to say on that.
Q7. Is there anything else that needs addressing?
—One person said the ic community.
—Three people said not enough replies/replies come too slowly.
—Two people said more external conflict with other groups.
—Three people said more internal conflict within the Badlands.
—One person said HP activity.
—One person said territory.
—One person was worn out on the number of aus at the time.
—One person felt they were too new to have a good sense of what needed addressing.
Okay so! All of these are things that I've been trying to work on (minus territory), you guys can expect to see some more external stuff happening real soon, and some internal stuff as well. Also, we've just lost both of our HPs so that's. A thing ig. Yeah. I'll be addressing all that stuff later in this post or in different places.
Q8. What do you like about the Badlands/feel doesn't need improvement?
—Two people said the ooc community.
—Two people said the ic community.
—Two people said the number of threads.
—Two people said external conflict.
—Three people said internal conflict.
—Three people said HP activity.
—Three people said writing/muse.
—Two people said the territory.
—One person appreciates the surveys and threads meant to address the issues here.
wow I feel like I dropped the ball on that last thing, but hey, glad you guys are enjoying those aspects of BL, still gonna try and make everything as good as it can be!
Q.9 Regarding the old traditions of the Badlands, which would you like to see KEPT and potentially even incorporated more?
—Four people said the services.
—Three people said the initiation.
—Two people said seasonal tournaments.
—Three people said Summer Tide.
—Four people said traditional holidays.
Okay without a counter of "what do you want to see removed" this doesn't really help me that much but hindsight is 20/20, right? So there's gonna be another separate thread discussing what to keep and remove as well as possibly add, as well as a new dedicated survey.
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OK SO because there is so much to get through, here are my main talking points for this thread. Answer as many as you can but if you can only comment on some of them, that's totally fine too.
1. Cliques, exclusion and activity
I'm hoping that people have had a better experience with the ooc community, but I fear that's not the case. Threads largely get ignored unless people have plotted together. This is something that's rampant on the board, and happens to me too. Unfortunately, there's little I can do about this as I can't force people to have muse or time to post, nor can I force anyone to devote what free time they have to their characters. All I can do is post in as many threads as I possibly can and try to incentive people to plot and post. Honestly, y'all, I'm taking suggestions on this bc idk how to make people plot and post. I know that the creator of the thread keeping up with it helps keep the thread alive, but sometimes people just bail after one post, if they bother with that much at all.
2. My incentive plans
I'm going to be making a plot buddy thing, I was actually going to do it tonight BUT I wanted the rewards to be part of a larger reward sort of thing? Which I. have a lose jumbling of concepts for but I don't actually know what would be best for incentives. Will you guys write for memes? Bones? items? Ic stuff? Art? oh god I'd fall through on making art so fucking fast it's terrible ooc things about your character? Help me out y'all I wanna do something that'll work
3. Niche Category
I just kind of added it impulsively? and honestly it hardly ever gets used so I wouldn't mind moving the "au stuff" channel to the secondary category and moving the specific aus to the graveyard. tbh I feel like we should either use it more or get rid of it.
4. Conflict
As far as internal conflict goes, I don't want to spoil all of my plots but stuff is coming and I'm totally on board for more stuff happening, so if you've got ideas hmu. Also, for external stuff, there might be something with ND coming up. Keep an eye out for that. (Again, if anyone wants to do some external conflict hmu).
5. HPs and titles
ok y'all here's the deal. I've not really promoted anyone because I've been trying to see who responds to threads a lot, regardless of what the thread's about or who made it, as well as generally consistent and good activity. I want someone who's around, and I haven't seen that too much? But that's what I look for in HPs, I really want to promote some people soon and uhh yes titles. bandannas initiation all that. again, it's stuff that needs to happen ic; it can be plotted out really easily it just needs to happen. That's what the mass training/testing thread is for, Cat hasn't given anyone a red bandanna since they started the tradition with the exception of their mother, and I really want to start giving these out more. Same with titles! Like, Cat just needs to see Mord in action and he'll have the Medic title, but it hasn't really... happened. ig this is more for transparency's sake than anything else idk if there's anything anyone can add but if you've got smth throw it at me.
6. Other?
I'm making a second thread for discussions about traditions which will be up soon (edit: oh wow a link). Uh. I feel like I'm missing smth but as y'all can see I've got a lot I'm trying to get through and I'm a gd mess so. yeah this is why it took so long but anyway. uh. if you've got anything else you'd like to talk about, please feel free to? I feel like I'm missing a lot but ahhh
[spoiler=results]Q1. Do you roleplay in the Badlands? And if you're comfortable, how deep is your history, if you have one?
Like I said, six people filled this out. At the time, four had been there for a while and two were recent joiners.
Q2. If you're already in the Badlands, could changes (especially to theme) you dislike potentially make you want to leave, or if you liked them would they make you more excited to roleplay there? If you're not in the Badlands, would changes you dislike keep you away, or could changes you do like draw you in?
This question was kind of a mess but the general response was that making changes would have little effect on people, with some reservations here and there.
Q3. What has been your experience (specifically within the last two months) with the OOC community?
—One person thought the whole group was cliquey.
—Five people thought a few individuals were cliquey.
—One person thought that there were only a few people that weren't cliquey.
—Two people thought it was a welcoming environment.
—One person didn't think it seemed cliquey because of different levels of involvement overall.
To me that highlighted that there's an issue, perhaps not one that's as bad as it could be but nearly everyone has felt like there's some problems. I'll be talking about this more a bit later. (For those confused why the numbers seem a little weird, people were allowed to select multiple things and write in)
Q4. What do you think of the action Bryne has been taking to try and address the cliques?
—Two people said it was too soon to tell.
—One person said I was doing well.
—One person said I would have to do more.
—One person said it was a start.
—The last person abstained.
I know that I've been doing little more than calling things out in meetings, but I do have more things I'll be implementing to try and encourage more plots and engagement, and I'll also be taking suggestions.
Q5. Do you think that the Discord has overall been a positive place and beneficial to the group?
—Five people said yes.
—One person said no.
Q6. Is there anything that you think could improve it, or should it just be closed (even temporarily)?
—One person thought it was a little confusing to have some channels be the same as threads on the site (chatting, etc).
—One person thought that the niche category should be removed, or at least unused channels should be deleted after a period of inactivity.
—One person thought it should be permanently closed.
—One person commented on how hard it can be to keep up at times.
—The other two didn't comment.
Ok for the duplicate threads/channels, those are just the basic things you'll get everywhere, and personally I don't think it makes sense to get rid of them. I don't want to make it harder for people to chat and plot on BB, nor strip anyone without discord of the ability to engage with the community in that way. Still, most of us use the discord and most of the chatting and plotting are done there, so it doesn't make sense to remove those channels either. As far as the niche category goes, I'm not all that opposed to moving the "au stuff" to the secondary category and removing the specific au channels. When it comes to closing down the discord, I? Okay. I'm sad and sorry that it's been a negative place for someone, but I think that the overwhelming consensus would be to keep the discord, as it's been a good place for most. Lastly, that's just the nature of discords and hell, I've even been in chat threads that moved that fast, maybe even faster. That was more of a comment on the nature of it (with a note that they're sure they can ask what they missed, which they absolutely can!), so there's not much else for me to say on that.
Q7. Is there anything else that needs addressing?
—One person said the ic community.
—Three people said not enough replies/replies come too slowly.
—Two people said more external conflict with other groups.
—Three people said more internal conflict within the Badlands.
—One person said HP activity.
—One person said territory.
—One person was worn out on the number of aus at the time.
—One person felt they were too new to have a good sense of what needed addressing.
Okay so! All of these are things that I've been trying to work on (minus territory), you guys can expect to see some more external stuff happening real soon, and some internal stuff as well. Also, we've just lost both of our HPs so that's. A thing ig. Yeah. I'll be addressing all that stuff later in this post or in different places.
Q8. What do you like about the Badlands/feel doesn't need improvement?
—Two people said the ooc community.
—Two people said the ic community.
—Two people said the number of threads.
—Two people said external conflict.
—Three people said internal conflict.
—Three people said HP activity.
—Three people said writing/muse.
—Two people said the territory.
—One person appreciates the surveys and threads meant to address the issues here.
wow I feel like I dropped the ball on that last thing, but hey, glad you guys are enjoying those aspects of BL, still gonna try and make everything as good as it can be!
Q.9 Regarding the old traditions of the Badlands, which would you like to see KEPT and potentially even incorporated more?
—Four people said the services.
—Three people said the initiation.
—Two people said seasonal tournaments.
—Three people said Summer Tide.
—Four people said traditional holidays.
Okay without a counter of "what do you want to see removed" this doesn't really help me that much but hindsight is 20/20, right? So there's gonna be another separate thread discussing what to keep and remove as well as possibly add, as well as a new dedicated survey.
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OK SO because there is so much to get through, here are my main talking points for this thread. Answer as many as you can but if you can only comment on some of them, that's totally fine too.
1. Cliques, exclusion and activity
I'm hoping that people have had a better experience with the ooc community, but I fear that's not the case. Threads largely get ignored unless people have plotted together. This is something that's rampant on the board, and happens to me too. Unfortunately, there's little I can do about this as I can't force people to have muse or time to post, nor can I force anyone to devote what free time they have to their characters. All I can do is post in as many threads as I possibly can and try to incentive people to plot and post. Honestly, y'all, I'm taking suggestions on this bc idk how to make people plot and post. I know that the creator of the thread keeping up with it helps keep the thread alive, but sometimes people just bail after one post, if they bother with that much at all.
2. My incentive plans
I'm going to be making a plot buddy thing, I was actually going to do it tonight BUT I wanted the rewards to be part of a larger reward sort of thing? Which I. have a lose jumbling of concepts for but I don't actually know what would be best for incentives. Will you guys write for memes? Bones? items? Ic stuff? Art? oh god I'd fall through on making art so fucking fast it's terrible ooc things about your character? Help me out y'all I wanna do something that'll work
3. Niche Category
I just kind of added it impulsively? and honestly it hardly ever gets used so I wouldn't mind moving the "au stuff" channel to the secondary category and moving the specific aus to the graveyard. tbh I feel like we should either use it more or get rid of it.
4. Conflict
As far as internal conflict goes, I don't want to spoil all of my plots but stuff is coming and I'm totally on board for more stuff happening, so if you've got ideas hmu. Also, for external stuff, there might be something with ND coming up. Keep an eye out for that. (Again, if anyone wants to do some external conflict hmu).
5. HPs and titles
ok y'all here's the deal. I've not really promoted anyone because I've been trying to see who responds to threads a lot, regardless of what the thread's about or who made it, as well as generally consistent and good activity. I want someone who's around, and I haven't seen that too much? But that's what I look for in HPs, I really want to promote some people soon and uhh yes titles. bandannas initiation all that. again, it's stuff that needs to happen ic; it can be plotted out really easily it just needs to happen. That's what the mass training/testing thread is for, Cat hasn't given anyone a red bandanna since they started the tradition with the exception of their mother, and I really want to start giving these out more. Same with titles! Like, Cat just needs to see Mord in action and he'll have the Medic title, but it hasn't really... happened. ig this is more for transparency's sake than anything else idk if there's anything anyone can add but if you've got smth throw it at me.
6. Other?
I'm making a second thread for discussions about traditions which will be up soon (edit: oh wow a link). Uh. I feel like I'm missing smth but as y'all can see I've got a lot I'm trying to get through and I'm a gd mess so. yeah this is why it took so long but anyway. uh. if you've got anything else you'd like to talk about, please feel free to? I feel like I'm missing a lot but ahhh
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