「 THE LION'S BROOD | STORAGE 」

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"]A place for me to store all my ideas about Hannibal, his family and anybody else I would lowkey love to exist in this mess. Feel free to track hi Rev or scream or whatever, I don't really mind. This is gonna be an absolute trainwreck anyway.

[aureate]

[align=center][div style="width: 500px; text-align: justify; font-family: helvetica; font-size: 9pt; line-height: 1.4;"]TRACKING HELLO

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"][spoiler=the family? i think?]⋆ Hamilcar — father.
⋆ Name TBA — eldest sister.
  ↳ Bomilcar — brother in law.
⋆ Name TBA — second eldest sister.
  ↳ Hasdrubal the Fair — brother in law.
⋆ Name TBA (Salammbo?) — third eldest sister.
  ↳ Naravas — brother in law.
⋆ Hannibal — eldest son.
⋆ Hasdrubal — middle brother.
⋆ Mago — youngest brother.[/spoiler]

OKAY so Hamilcar was ~28 when Hannibal was born and if he suffers the same fate as Actual Hamilcar then he dies at ~47, oh nooo. So. Hannibal would be. 18? And Hasdrubal was born two years after Hannibal, making Hamilcar ~30 and Hasrubal ~16 when/if his dad dies. Mago was born another two years after that, making Hamilcar ~32 and Mago ~14 when/if his dad dies. IDK about the sisters BUT Hasdrubal the Fair is apparently ~23 years older than Hannibal and only 5 years younger than his dad, C h r i s t, so.

IDK the order of Hannibal vs his siblings, but if I assume that Hannibal, despite being the oldest boy, is the fourth oldest child, then if I say his sisters are also spaced two years apart from one another, that would make Hamilcar ~26 when sister three was born, ~24 when sister two was born and ~22 when sister one was born? Which could work?

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"]WAIT so Hasdrubal the Fair is ~23 years older than Hannibal, and he marries his second sister, who is ~4 years older than Hannibal, so that's a ~19 year age gap? Keeping these ages semi-accurate makes things super weird

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"]I could always make Pretty Hasdrubal a little bit younger so that it's not so weird? There are probably some external figures whose ages are going to be messed up anyway just to make things work side-eyes Scipio, possibly so many that's not too odd of me to do.

ALSO. New Carthage + New Rome need sorting out. On paper screen. Because they're of no use while they're stuck in my head as floaty, vague concepts, lmao.

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"][spoiler=a few things from me screaming at rev]- babysitter hasdrubal
- "i KNOW there's a war but this FUCKING BABY won't SLEEP"

- that being said he was at war at 9, so he wasn't a baby for very long

Scipio being 11 years younger than Hannibal IRL. Just. That thing.
- i'm giggling he was a c-section baby oh no
- sixteen year old hannibal, aggressively stepping on a tiny child,
- "perish, filthy roman"

- [from rev] hannibal beating up small romans on the playground
- also hannibal "i will always hate rome" barca, inviting scipio to chill with him one time,
- like this happened. hannibal that's. that's not what you promised.

- [also from rev] his father, from heaven: H A N N I B A L
hannibal: IT WAS ONE TIME, DAD
- i'm giggling hamilcar descends like mufasa to give the speech

- the barcas live in fear of their father's spirit
- every day they make sure to have loud chats about why they hate rome

- [even more rev] i just imagined them all as like. youngish teenagers, which. kinda makes sense given when he died. but like. having obviously loud conversations about hating rome while passing around notes about inviting scipio over for dinner
"THERE ARE DEFINITELY NO ROMANS HERE"
- i'm giggling "ROME IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST" [cut to scipio nodding dramatically, probably terrified]

- also "when i was tiny my dad held me over an open fire and forced me to swear to hate rome forever. good times." [cue general agreement from the lion's brood] and then just "he did fucking WHAT"

- hamilcar was a special kind of dad
- The Roman historian Valerius Maximus wrote that while Hamilcar watched his three boys play, he said, "These are the lion cubs I am rearing for the destruction of Rome."
- what an intense father
- also hannibal was his Known Favourite but nobody really cared bc he turned out to be pretty useful

- MAGO? THE. THE THIRD SON?
- THE ONE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT?
- the mahon. the. port of mahon?? was named after him
- AND YOU KNOW WHAT COMES FROM THAT NAME?
- MAYONNAISE. THAT'S RIGHT. MAGO IS THE REASON MAYONNAISE IS MAYONNAISE, APPARENTLY.
- i mean sure, hannibal was a great military strategist, but mago is responsible for mayonnaise's name, so who's the real winner here, huh

- [rev] this is all hamilcar's fault

- also imagine being hasdrubal
- you grow up knowing that your sister's husband will always be known as the pretty hasdrubal and there you are, just,,, average
- [rev] ASLDFKJAHFDLKJH the normal hasdrubal
the Lesser hasdrubal
- inferior hasdrubal, offended: excuse me[/spoiler]

[sharkbeak]

[align=center][div style="background=transparent; borderwidth=0px; bordercolor=; width: auto; font-size: 9.2pt; font-family:arial; line-height: 125%; text-align:justify; width: 500px"][spoiler=a few things from me screaming at rev: pokémon edition]- pokemon au + hamilcar would 100% have an aegislash i've been thinking about this for so long
- i just like the idea of angry commander dad and his GIANT GHOST SWORD because aegislash defend kings and recognise innate qualities of leaders, only following people they see as good commanders and HAMILCAR

- [rev] do you think the smaller han would have one too
- hamson one would never start with one i don't think?? but i feel like he'd unwittingly inherit his dad's after hamilcar's death maybe?? ?? ?? ?? ?
- eighteen years old and inheriting your dad's angry ghost sword, your brothers are semi mad they didn't get it but semi relieved the damn sword hasn't died (again) from grief,
alternatively: the belief that aegislash is inhabited by a spirit leads to the belief that hamilcar is haunting the sword as well now
- [rev] OOOH I LOVE THAT? DOUBLE HAUNTED SWORD? PLEASE STOP JUDGING ME FROM THE GRAVE, DAD? I SWEAR I STILL HATE ROME?
- ghost sword is probably dead already, who knows
i'm giggling just [attempts to be civil @ a roman general] [sword begins to vibrate angrily]
- [rev] alsdkjfahklfdjh i love this sword
GIANT ANGRILY VIBRATING SWORD DISAPPROVES

- my first thought was hamilcar and mega gyarados i'm giggling he dies in water but his mega evolution is a water type
- hannibal: i swear to fucking god dad can't even use your sea shrimp to stop yourself from drowning my god

- maybe mago can have the cubone because he was small and never really given any thought when hamilcar died. he wasn't even there, i don't think.

- [on hannibal + mega metagross] “It analyzes its opponents with more accuracy than a supercomputer, which enables it to calmly back them into a corner.”
and
“When it knows it can’t win, it digs the claws on its legs into its opponent and starts the countdown to a big explosion.”
- [rev] oh my god that suits him a little too well, i
"can't win? TIME TO FUCKING EXPLODE"

- [on mayonnaise] oil egg yolk acid
miltank exeggutor any poison type
- his brothers call him mayo and he’s always mad

- scipio + alakazam i’m giggling
- highest iq vs ubercomputer
- as for alexander, he throws his soul at people to cause damage
- hamilcar unleashes the rage of a thousand shrimps

- YES. oh noooo that means young hamildad had a magikarp
- I'M CRYING OH GOD. BUT THAT WORKS? the dedication and DETERMINATION it takes to make this fucking shrimp into something COOL.
- “you see hannibal when you train hard you make monsters out of mice”[/spoiler]